The Toilet Paper Salesman® Podcast

Rewriting The Future With An Ancient Fiber

Mike Mirarchi Season 3 Episode 22

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 45:28

Send a text

Imagine paper that’s stronger than what you use now, made without harsh chemicals, grown in weeks instead of decades, and ready to compost in your backyard. That’s the promise driving our talk with Ben Draper of the Hemp Paper Company, and it starts with a simple question: what if the future of packaging isn’t trees or plastic, but an ancient fiber returning at scale?

We dig into how industrial hemp differs from CBD and marijuana, and why the fiber-and-grain side matters for real-world products. Ben walks us through the lost decades—policy confusion, outdated stigma, and dismantled supply chains—that delayed hemp’s comeback. Then he maps the rebuild: partnering with mills, proving performance with high-strength paper bags and boards, and targeting cartons for brands that want premium packaging without the environmental hangover. Along the way, you’ll hear why hemp’s rapid growth and low-input processing can slash water use and chemicals, how cover-cropping helps pull toxins from soil, and why hemp paper can be recycled more times than typical tree paper, locking up carbon for longer.

The heart of the episode is circularity. Hawaii becomes a prototype for a full loop: grow hemp, decorticate locally, explore hemp-derived fuels to power processing, convert to products that either reenter the system or safely compost. We talk candidly about the pitfalls of plastic bans without composting infrastructure, the economics of early-stage materials, and creative pricing models that make adoption easier. If you care about sustainable packaging, microplastics, soil health, or practical climate wins, this conversation brings a grounded, ambitious route forward—one bag, one box, one supply chain at a time.

If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a friend who works in packaging or retail, and leave a review with one question you want answered about hemp materials next time.

Link to my website: The Toilet Paper Salesman ™ – Who Says Selling Toilet Paper isn’t Glamorous? ™

Link to my book: Wisdom from a Toilet Paper Salesman | BookBaby Bookshop

Link to buy Toilet Paper Salesman swag: My Store

Link to David Mirarchi's website: David Mirarchi

Link to RJ Schinner Co, Inc: RJ Schinner | Home